Problem in porting an application

John van V. john.van.v at
Sun May 9 19:43:53 CEST 2010

Just so you know, I was a big person in information when it was
centered in my home city of NY.

Just as NYC's tech industry collapsed (mostly, I believe because of
the bombing of the WTC--which itself was a headquarters of free
software), I was completing the design criterion of the Thinman model,
which is an extension of Perl's CPAN to a VM that is open to the
Internet for both data and code.  It is anti-app in that each object,
presumably a dataset, is, as it is evoked, its own app.  Your friends
list, as a small example, becomes a phone book in a flexible browser,
when it is evoked in the context of a phone call through a model or
other connection.

I personally know David Korn, which is significant to me, since I
believe that his KSH, with its related commands and related shells
such as BASH, has provided the best work, and play, environment we
have.  It has a little awkwardness (which is forgivable given it was a
proof of concept at its inception in the 1970s), and no OO version
Shell has been attempted.  And needless to say, it lacked a visual

Other than those few issues, I cannot help but believe his traditional
open shell still provides a model of the type of interactive framework
that we need to bring to L4 as the default interface.

I have since taken social science paths, and perhaps because of this,
I very much want to help work from the top down (as you are with your
ground-breaking port) to the lower levels, where everybody else is, so
that L4 growth can be what free software is really all about--our

John van V.

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Karthik Vadambacheri Manian
<karthikvm.uc at> wrote:
> Thanks for the comments John. Its very encouraging!!
> Regards,
> Karthik
> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:41 PM, John van V. <john.van.v at> wrote:
>> Great work, seriously!
>> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Karthik Vadambacheri Manian
>> <karthikvm.uc at> wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Currently I am trying to port a pingpong c++ application which uses time
>> > warped libraries. The time warped libraries use standard c++ library
>> > inturn.
>> > I tried to compile the pingpong application by modifying the makefiles
>> > to
>> > include the time warped headers. But I get lot of errors while compiling
>> > because during compilation the uclibc++ header files are used instead of
>> > standard c++ headers and they differ. Hence I tried to port the warped
>> > library functions for uclibc++ but it seems it needs a huge
>> > modification. Do
>> > modifying makefiles to use standard c++ header files instead of uclibc++
>> > will break other systems? Please let me know your comments.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Karthik.V.M.
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