doebel at os.inf.tu-dresden.de
Fri May 11 16:06:57 CEST 2012
On 11.05.2012 03:15, Ryan Brown wrote:
> Hi. I'm exploring developing software that runs on Fiasco.OC/L4re, so I'm
> trying to understand how the various pieces fit together. If I'm following
> the makefiles correctly it looks like some uclibc files (like libc/inet)
> are getting compiled, but they seem to be making linux system calls.
Note, that not all files in uClibC are built. Instead, we only compile
a subset that is semi-magically determined by the list in
l4/pkg/uclibc/lib/uclibc/contrib_files.mk. Basically, you can
distinguish two classes of files:
a) files that don't have dependencies on the underlying system or
platform -- those are taken from the original uClibC sources in
b) files that depend on system calls and other infrastructure (e.g.,
file systems) -- those either come from our own implementation
(l4/pkg/uclibc/lib/uclibc/*) or from the libc_backends package.
Anything related to making system calls falls under category b) and of
course uses Fiasco system calls.
> I also
> see the libc_backends code, and I'm not sure how this fits in. It looks
> like these are mostly stubs, is it expected that you'll link the final
> binary with the real implementation you want?
There are a couple of backends in l4/pkg/libc_backends. For instance
l4/pkg/libc_backends/lib/sig implements POSIX signals on top of L4. You
will notice that it uses Fiasco system calls (look for functions
starting with l4_*()).
The backend idea is: every backend implements a part of POSIX
functionality that depends on the system, such as signals, virtual file
systems etc. You then link your application against those backends you
need. For instance, if you don't need POSIX signals in your app, there's
no need to link against libc_be_signal.
> I also took a look at libpthreads, and I don't see much l4 specific code.
That's a feature! We reuse pthread's original functionality instead of
building everything from scratch.
> It looks like mutexes are implemented as spinlocks?
Not exactly. pthread's mutex implementation tries spinning first and
once it finds out that the lock cannot be grabbed immediately, it goes
to sleep (see calls to suspend()). That's a pretty reasonable thing to
do, because it speeds up the non-contention case by not requiring any
> Isn't there a better way to do synchronization in fiasco?
suspend() is implemented using an L4-specific system call (see
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