Hi,
Is the l4 server interface descripted somewhere (as in, I need a little more help getting started than just RTFsource :) )? I'm beginning to think the effort involved in porting the HURD servers to Mach may be worthwhile in the long run.
ObHurd - what do any Hurd people here think?
Matthew
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Matthew Vernon wrote:
Hi,
Is the l4 server interface descripted somewhere (as in, I need a little more help getting started than just RTFsource :) )? I'm beginning to think the effort involved in porting the HURD servers to Mach may be worthwhile in the long run.
Look at http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~disz follow the L4 link and then the L4 Users manual should help. Do you mean port HURD to the L4 micro-kernel?
ObHurd - what do any Hurd people here think?
Ive asked RMS about such a port, currently they have no staff working on HURD and are looking for someone to take it up. A group of us may consider porting HURD to L4 during the Australian summer (dec-jan-feb). Cheers Adam
Is the l4 server interface descripted somewhere (as in, I need a little more help getting started than just RTFsource :) )? I'm beginning to think the effort involved in porting the HURD servers to Mach may be worthwhile in the long run.
Look at http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~disz follow the L4 link and then the L4 Users manual should help. Do you mean port HURD to the L4 micro-kernel?
ObHurd - what do any Hurd people here think?
Ive asked RMS about such a port, currently they have no staff working on HURD and are looking for someone to take it up. A group of us may consider porting HURD to L4 during the Australian summer (dec-jan-feb).
Cheers Adam
Well, if you need people willing to work on it please count me in !!
Cheers.
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"MV" == Matthew Vernon matthew@debian.org writes:
MV> Hi, MV> Is the l4 server interface descripted somewhere (as in, I need a MV> little more help getting started than just RTFsource :) )? I'm beginning MV> to think the effort involved in porting the HURD servers to Mach may be MV> worthwhile in the long run.
Porting to Mach would mean that you get more of an environment than you (presently) get with L4 (although that's changing). Also Mach presently runs on more platforms, L4 presently runs on ix86, Alpha and MIPS, with a StrongARM kernel in the works. (I'd be keen to see it happening on SPARCs and PowerPC, if I had a good student who's interested...)
Advantage of L4 is SPEED. More than an order of magnitude on basic syscalls (see Liedtke's paper in the 1995 SOSP).
"AW" == Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au writes:
AW> Look at http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~disz follow the L4 link and AW> then the L4 Users manual should help.
Adam gave the wrong URL. Try: http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~disy/
AW> Ive asked RMS about such a port, currently they have no staff AW> working on HURD and are looking for someone to take it up. A group of us AW> may consider porting HURD to L4 during the Australian summer AW> (dec-jan-feb). "A group of us" out of Adam's mouth usually means "Adam" ;-)
That's probably on top of finishing L4/StrongARM, his palmtop, port Linux etc...
Gernot (the guy who's trying to keep Adam focussed)
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